A.P. I am not even sure what I’m going to
do over the rest of the season. My schedule
is unpredictable though I can confirm I’ve
entered the US Senior Open in Ohio in
July. It’s difficult for me because I’m busy
with course design and not only am I
spending a lot of time on that but on other
projects as well.
Also, there’s an uncertainty with my
golf which has put me in a position where I
don’t feel I am going to play very much.
On the other hand, I’ve committed to a
couple of small charity events in the not too
distant future.
I do play for fun in the afternoons here
at Bay Hill, but I’m not playing well at the
moment. The whole of my game is poor
I’m afraid.
How did your dual role as honorary
chairman and player in the Senior
PGA Championship at the Laurel
Valley Golf Club go?
A.P. It went very well. I think it was a
very successful tournament and the whole
thing worked out extremely well. I played
quite well, but I missed the cut which was
disappointing. On the other hand, that
gave me more time to fulfil my role as host.
It’s not the first big event we’ve had at
Laurel Valley, my home course where I
grew up, by any means. Way back in 1965
it staged the USPGA won by my great,
sorely missed friend Dave Marr. Then we
had the Ryder Cup there in 1975 when I
was captain of the US team, and it was also the
venue for the US Senior Open in 1989.
Ironically, I’ve never played well there in a
championship. In fact my record there is rather
poor. Maybe my concentration has suffered over
the years because of the distractions that have
arisen due to my being the local man.
Regarding the Masters, it’s well documented
that Augusta National would like
you to become their honorary starter.
What is your view about that and do you
think you will take them up on their
offer?
A.P. I am giving that question some thought
at the moment, but I haven’t made a final decision
yet. I still see myself going there every year, but I
certainly don’t plan to play in the tournament any
more.
Jack Nicklaus says the golf ball should be
reined in for top tournament pros so it
can’t fly beyond a certain distance. I
believe this is your view as well. Is this
the answer to the distances that modern
Tour pros hit the ball these days? Do you
agree with Jack that it’s a problem? Or
does perhaps the answer lie in the
equipment?
A.P. We do need to rein in the ball. I have
my own feelings about it but they are similar to
Jack’s. My feeling is that they need to slow the
ball down and make the great tournament courses
play their full length. At the moment it’s not in
the same ball park. We need to slow it down
because we can’t keep building longer and longer
courses. Pretty soon we won’t have the real estate
to do that. There’s no doubt the ball is the better
point of reference for this than clubs.
When I became associated with Callaway, my
feeling was that the ordinary golfer needs to play
the game and find it easier. I was thinking about
them when I was doing my thing with Callaway.
In my view, the professionals carry the higher
grade balls so far and all the materials they now
have in them really do affect their performance
when in the hands of the best players.
Regarding Palmer Course Design: what
projects do you have in the pipeline –
near completion, at drawing-board stage,
etc?
A.P. We are doing a number of projects and
from time to time we are finishing them. We don’t
have as many as we once did. I supposed we have
15-20 on the go right now - in places like Florida
and north-west California, for instance, also in
Beijing. We have designed over 300 courses in
total and we have 20 in process.
I think golf in America is on a slow tack at the
moment. It is progressing at the same even pace
whereas in other parts of the world – like South
America, Europe and the Far East – it is making
huge strides.
If I were to ask you one question about
your design philosophy, it would be: what
sort of golfer do you feel you’re creating
your courses for, and what questions are
you asking of him/her?
A.P. When I come to design a course, first of
all I want to respect the environment and blend
my design in with it. Then my design philosophy
turns to trying to build courses that have a beauty
aspect. I want my courses to be fun for the
average to poor player and at the same time be
challenging for the better golfer.
You designed the K Club, the venue for
the 2006 Ryder Cup. Are you going to be
involved in any design tweaks that may be
planned for that? Also how do you feel
the K Club will shape up as a Ryder Cup
venue?
A.P. I have already done my design tweaks at
the K Club, most of them last year, and they are
pretty much finished. We did do some tweaking
at various holes, added a bit of length and
tightened some of the landing areas, banked up a
few sand traps, that sort of thing.
I think we have created a difficult course
there, but we haven’t changed the basic layout that
much. I think it will be extremely good for the
Ryder Cup. I certainly intend to arrange my
schedule so I can be there for the match
next year.
Tiger Woods has now got nine major
titles, but he has a lot of able rivals at the
top of the game. How would you assess
the current rivalry between the big five of
Woods, Els, Mickelson, Singh and
Goosen compared with what you went
through with Nicklaus and Player?
A.P. It’s great for the game that there is a
rivalry amongst a number of leading players. I see
that rivalry intensifying as time goes on as
the older players - Singh, Els and Mickelson -
are caught up by a few of the young, up-andcoming
stars.
Hopefully, this is going to create a whole new
interest in the game. Certainly, the influx on to
our Tour of players from Europe, Australasia,
Asia and South Africa has influenced this a great deal.
I think the current rivalries are comparable
with the Big Three and it will continue in that
fashion. What is perhaps in doubt is who the
challengers to Tiger Woods over the long term
are going to be.
What is your view of playoffs in major
championships? Should they be
sudden-death, over 18-holes, four
holes, or what?
A.P. I think if the program of the final day
allows it, then there should be very good reasons
why a playoff should not span four holes. I think
that is fair enough. No one wants to come back
the next day, which is what has to happen if
there’s a tie in the US Open. But on the other
hand I hate to see it where a player can make one
slight mistake and have it cost him a major
championship, which is what can happen in
sudden-death.
As a businessman, you have extended
the Arnold Palmer brand into all sorts
of areas, ranging from health care to
vineyards. Are you prepared to give
anything a go on the commercial front,
or are there some projects you wouldn’t
want to embrace?
A.P.We certainly have an open mind about
what to endorse, but on the other hand if it’s a
particular product I have to be able to use it
myself to see if it’s appropriate to what we’re
doing. I’d have an awful lot of endorsements if
I didn’t ask myself the question, ‘do I want that?’
Looking into your crystal ball, do you see
the world of four majors and regionalized
Tours enduring in the game? Or
are we going to see a world circuit
evolving? If so, how do you think this
should be run?
A.P. We are definitely going to see a larger
role for the World Golf Championship events in
years to come, but the way it will take place is
difficult for me to say.
We see a much greater number of leading
international golfers on our Tours these days
and there is no question that there will have
to be non-American tournaments on this
Tour as it grows.
Are you happy with the way the Ryder
Cup has evolved in recent times? Are
there changes you would like to see in
the event?
A.P. I think the Ryder Cup is one of golf ’s
most important international events and I
rate it very highly. I wouldn’t make any changes
to the format and I would hope to see it
continue to fulfil its role as a unique contest in
international golf.
It is always great to represent your country in
any kind of a match and the Ryder Cup has
depicted that right to the tee. It surely will
continue to do so.
I have many fond memories of my Ryder Cup
experiences. In particular, I recall the thrill and
surge of patriotism that I felt at the opening ceremonies
of my first Ryder Cup at Royal Lytham &
St Annes.
How highly do you rate the Presidents
Cup? Are there changes you would like
to see in the event?
A.P. I think the Presidents Cup complements
the Ryder Cup beautifully. And it provides
players in the international team with an opportunity
for the highest level of team play that
would not otherwise be there for them.
I gather you flew over to Portugal and
Spain recently? Do you still enjoy flying
your own plane? You must have clocked
up a lot of hours.
A.P. That particular journey was a 7,000-
mile round trip which I enjoyed very much.
There are always two pilots in my plane wherever
we go. In my flying career, I have recorded over
18,000 flying hours. My airplane is much faster
now than the model I first flew. My current plane
is a Cessna, Citation 10. It’s nine years old, but
very comfortable and very convenient.
How did your recent trip to Portugal go?
Also, how do you think the Victoria
course is shaping up ahead of the World
Cup of Golf in November?
A.P. It’s going to be a wonderful course and
they are currently working hard to get it ready for
the World Cup of Golf.
When we were designing it, we didn’t know it
would get such a prestigious event so early in its
life, though obviously we hoped it would.
There is a lot of water on the course but I
wouldn’t call it a dominant water situation. The
holes on which it comes into play are actually
quite few. It’s a marvelous setting and I’m really
looking forward to seeing how it plays at the
World Cup of Golf.
If you’re not going to make as many
public golf appearances as you have in
the past, what do you think you will do
with your time?
A.P. I’ll spend more time building courses
and I’ll be more involved in the actual progress. I
have some personal business projects that I’m
working on, but the answer to the rest of that
question is that we don’t have a lot of other things
that we are involved in.
I noticed that recently you addressed the
students at Wake Forest, your alma
mater. Are you planning to step up your
involvement with student golf at Wake
Forest?
A.P. I addressed a gathering of the students
who had just graduated. I go there occasionally
and we are in the process of trying to do a course
for the university.
We are looking at two different projects and
once a decision has been made and a site bought
then a dedicated course will be built.
When I was a student there, there was a little
course on which we practiced but when it came to
playing our matches against other colleges, we
were hosted by a country club nearby.
Are you looking forward to your forthcoming
visit to Toronto? I gather it marks
the 50th anniversary of your first Tour
win – in the 1955 Canadian Open.
A.P. They are creating a new tournament,
based on a couples format and called the Kings
and Queens Senior Amateur Championship. The
event takes place from September 12-14 at the
Weston Golf & Country Club, where I won my
first Tour event in 1955. It’s all been organized by
the Greater Toronto Area Golfers’ Association for
its Greens & Dreams Fund, and the Sick Kids’
Foundation will be its beneficiary.
It will kick off with a gala dinner on
September 12. Then Marlene Streit, a very
distinguished Canadian lady amateur golfer who
was inducted into the World Golf Hall of Fame
last November, will join me in hitting the ceremonial
tee shots to get the ball rolling on the 13th.
How clear are your recollections of that
first Tour win?
A.P. I remember it all those years ago very
well because I go to Toronto frequently. I’m sure
it goes without saying, but I love the place.
How is re-married life, and how is Mrs
Palmer adapting to her new life? I understand
that she likes Kingdom? Also, do
you get much feedback from readers?
A.P. Married life is great. Mrs Palmer likes
the magazine and I get a lot of feedback from
readers, most of it very favorable.
Thank you very much Mr Palmer.
A.P. It’s my pleasure.